Integrating MOOCs into the Penn State Learning Ecosystem - A conversatio...

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Can afford it so they can afford .
It wanna still have them come to us and work with them anymore up high and weigh create a flow learners I think that we can also do this book creating a PLO learners into our existing certificate and degree programs and we also need to recover the investment that's gonna take for to offer all this although books in the free.
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Sequence them cities the sequence I'd like to see that happening.
You the same for best courses and you end up with.
We can still sell clothes at those is still three courses that has taken off look at how bad is it.
We can give away that that isn't so called course the choose between badging or courses now we have those that is identified.
Why not make those available to the world outside.
And say I'm suggesting here to take those bad is it at that to a content cool up that really will be supplemented services just serve one programs 3 is you would have are.
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What people want their not really expecting to finish but I have a completion problem but i think is related to the fact that not everybody wants do everything in.
What we define as a course summer just curious to know what little pieces up.
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Use Mozilla backpacker that the next thing is more behind the that's not really appropriate to be test we can offer that will not be increased.
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In there I'll close your badges there's another low-level peace they don't pass that test not a bit looking just like you we study.
And take that to get and and ultimately past us.
Go back and look at what they were doing in pass the test really not much.
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Free system and I would go back around through that no end up with a collection about his other collection the badges can be.
Displayed in collection services loans are big.
Everything I've got but you're gonna want the ability to display does as collections so you'll be able to take this portfolio and make collections a badges.
Maybe SAT six batters are related to you know.
Instructional design these two are related specifically to task analysis.
I can produce reports for that and those reports.
Then can be used for prior learning assessment so prior learning assessment what r talked about that briefly the moment is a key to to advertise a credit.
This credit or things like continuing education units really based on time and they release a low level over there occasion low great credentials we can do that how assessments that except a small.
Process if we can do that that now you got this center badges there was an introductory course that I have a set a badge is that ok with that said the I might I want to see you as I might want course credit for that.
So my two options are credit by examination it read by portfolio so its credit by examination other words it's now its local stuff.
What other stuff the low-level that can be tested.
And if I don't pass it no big deal I get to brush up and try again.
If I do pass it though I should be able to get some credit the workload much your answer it gets a little tricky or talking about the higher order stuff the stuff.
High-dose hierarchies because you really do need a review now you've already happy review the assignments with the exact same assignments that were in my course.
Solo the problems with quote by portfolio go away.
Because as you see somebody giving you although it doesn't have comparable.
And see what you're looking for you designed it asks they did those past.
They were reviewed by peers who are experts it probably already brushing things up or you know you know that they are there some dig your body there that should expedite work all your review process.
Now the pain is more money for that's very labor intensive so hurt by what they say is up three hundred 80 to 90 dollars up.
It's all rights but three hundred ninety dollars for up to six credits.
So it could still represent about ten to twenty percent whether cigarettes experts other possible taking the exact course so then if you you know if you passed that they reviewed actually go on your transcript not again you can come back to route.
So all those credits that now I end up with it.
Credits that I got inexpensively and on my own.
That can be applied to degree certificates and transmit so increases the odds that I first longer know about that states agree.
I'm gonna have be X percent either way there's a 20 32 forty percent of the way there before coming to get those things that are really high up on the.
On that up hierarchy attacks on so he can also there's a competency-based learning have to know.
What you care about that means well fun learning outcomes and assessments.
That area so there is some cost to us because I don't think our courses are.
Are designed well enough to really a do that yet.
There's a digital badging component with here assessor to call and was like Bronze level solution do that and still use that backs to claim some knowledge.
Then there's our Penn State assess the Gold level best that they can use that you have more a wat.
In terms of other people's perception those bad.
Minutes prior learning assessment the Pats open I agree that they were pryor's which is always a set.
Associate that really is it really accurate love this is learning it just happened I'm letting that happen purposely in order to meet this course so it's not the same thing as saying well you have X years work experience ever going to give you a budget credits this is actually a.
Competency-based assessment learning that has taken place weathers prior or you know just in time so this.
And then what we're gonna need is most I'll peer review it here support tools.
So the good news is a lot of those tools are evolving rapidly outside.
And stay we should be able to apply those sources so I just say closing wanna say this stuff we're going to have a time-based up.
That came out in nineteen oh says just you know 1906 that's when this was a variation right and that and where the fire department at san francisco-based it was responsible for much to the destruction because.
Fire departments were starting to use dynamited that actually exacerbate things so.
This time based system that we're in something created you know back then and we shouldn't necessarily think that this is the thing that's going to terrorists or.
Maybe we need some new approaches like that that's where I'll stop.
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This idea here is some to a to see if we could do a little bit of a different model with um MOOCs and generate a little bit in revenue.
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Thanks for everybody for be X on sequestering gonna look at is a course called presumed innocent and says sociology course that at is um.
And I have social science con in turn to that because it is really going to be the end is going to be created general education social science course and to see if we can deliver it at scale.
Up for it walls or a reduced cost.
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Okay so a of symptomatic that so tremendous video a and you messed today ya all you'll be in it might take a course titled.
You madly open online course the summer available to you let me talk a little bit about a no.
Summer the at decisions we made early on.
But you thinking about this why the summer %uh because some argue this a little bit more ability was regarded situation and how we.
Charge to attend up within the phone is brand new.
Be locked into it she tables and know that.
On why sociology eat well we're not concerned about the what this experiment it's really a pilot.
Is gonna do and mean four-day can this is we.
We don't we know they can't don't have or a lot of those argued a programs going on we thought about psychology and the wanna that options for this because we needed a course that it was the.
Gonna be popular but we also other campuses ap psychology course is going on all time in the summer so we didn't really what we did was we thought it be unfair amount a cheaper summer up course a.
To a massive scale and opened both Penn State.
Students and nine and it in so so we chose a theology that weather kinda finger tap in only 10 we can offer high quality instruction and educational experience at scale will see what happens up where a discounting tuition situation ever you can attach.
Attract net new student to the online.
Program both new %uh.
It base revenue up possibilities in the summer.
But then also hopefully we have them and sociology this we feed possibly at the the Mubarak may feed.
A feeds upon a.m. almonds to sociology and sociology minor either their minor.
Pagers that we have in the social science ida things are on your campus um and of course this wanna learn in C about what what we're learn about online education in process.
Us lot I'll work on that that what we have.
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Course components a things on the.
I guess on the left of the screen there are shared between the MOOC.
And and the mock video lecture content some some quizzes and discussions discussion forms but then there will be a portion of the course that is.
The bracketed of and segregated of.
A and that will have in just additional readings reading that may be copyrighted.
It will have a student projects that are more robust in them they'll have more rigorous assignments obviously we can offer three credits I have to get those credits worth work in the air.
And then nothing I'm.
Particularly excited about is we're going.
We're gonna hire a a small army undergraduate ahead.
Any graduate but teach teaching assistants probably in a candid tiered system with the graduate teaching assistants a supervising the undergraduate teaching assistant %uh to see if we can now I'm really get more than just the kind of peer review.
Experience with regard to the evaluation love up content in the um in that credit course something we do lab for our 700 person.
Um so is 119 course a courses and rigidity Giselle we we have a lot of experience with that over in sociology and we have a.
We have a over us undergraduate student range that so we're hoping that that integrate that and that's another part in to see how that can be brought into this this model.
So how this gonna work well it we're going to have that kind of situation where you guys ever made sign up for the mood and a then in the first six weeks you will have.
People who plan to continue with the mood they can complete the mood I'll drop at the mood as we know how people will build %uh and and others who completed they learned their certificate with all the things on the bottom the certificate this these papers were barely what it branded on but in a day I you you've done something up for those who.
%uh sign up for credit ad at a certain point end early on in the course.
No sign up I will register them a top managers about that um we they will complete a the coursework.
And with more robust information and more robust.
Assignment then I'll receive a great and the receipt three credits.
For the course so my past five years but open questions about why people have been a number of questions but we have a number of open questions about this what delivery platform are we gonna use.
We are proudly were thinking about staying away from Corsair on this one.
I and hoping that a reduced tuition rate will draw people are working were I'm going from his meeting to me with Blackboard.
Up to see if that at their platform can be used so we may %uh looking at that under reduced tuition rate is going to %uh at the military grade level which is something like nine hundred and twenty dollars side so amman is pretty much the lowest tuition we offer um for gen ed course I think it'll be into an enticing thing up to another open question is how we gonna manage student information %uh how we gonna register people.
How we gonna the verify and this because the academic integrity point how we're going to verify that the people who are they are doing the work.
I'm so all those things are things were thinking about and you impress me on them I you can but I don't have a lot of answers at the moment at the moment.
%uh so that's really the that's really the model.
Or up for this movie mock %uh experiment.
Grand experiment in summer we only have one but.
Crowbar where a day at how did you go about actually getting that were used.
Wiktionary I question they um well I know people yeah a actually it was a.
You know if this thing came kinda bowan in conversation with on crag apply to men and um and Susan Welsh and and so we just said we a he in fact he approaches are we willing to experiment with it and we came up with this model %uh I'll Rachel Smith in the Budget Office.
Took some %uh convincing and I and to be honest with you I'm not sure that it's finally been approved that we're going to get reduce red is the hearing is yet in yeah right.
I'm glad reading bankroll yeah I get better maybe you're just gonna.
Well you know all the money we make on the road campers were just gonna let back in but actually I think the you know even if we spit it simply making less just a thousand dollars as.
A do not mess um.
If we get now's instance will definitely be covered our cost you know.
But I have if we can get a thousands is only a preview crazy pretty significant so I think we're going to get that but Faculty Senate department College approvals.
Um yeah I don't miss the ok I'll Thunder I wanna I can imagine your.
Crackly Senate approval it's coming we're out we're approving getting the course as the general it.
He/she course um into that the senate.
This spraying I'm whenever I try who talk about delivery methods in terms of both.
%uh was approved with precum many nobody gonna be delivery etc.
It I'm kinda but I'll justs lettin that still be 2k because this course is a good news so it's not mean.
It's gonna be enriched vigorous you know sociology.
Work that we could offer anyway um getting apartment to buy in was.
A is its will issue ahead had to be candid.
And this is you know real by Wyndham at you know that is that members outta outta that a couple courses a sprained get him to be omitted elevate pick up college was kinda driving it so.
We just bed some considers it a lot.
Been on board night mean I'm I'm excited to just write I mean something different Chris you're not gonna go the courts a row whereas I bought.
Straight yet know how you go about promoting.
Yet nothing like this a yes that's one other thing you have been thinking a lot about which is that which.
Is is and marketing um 1/2 the up from tuition finalized and one's we have Eunos.
The ads with regard to that is um.
Again a.m. will work with W yet rated.
To figure out a up a little bit of a marketing plan.
To make this you know is out there an entity about on up.
A tool that's right for deferred programs yet if the birds that yeah.
I'm also.
Myself in in the issue I'll 'em no learning experience on the undergraduate.
Th that so what what and have experiences are we.
Are we giving these buttons who RT a must.
At I think there's a lot about to you prestige into that experienced.
Median of a credit for that %uh depend so there there's an upside it that where we where we could get a net giving them four hundred level sociology credit which we do you do for Arsenal our TA's in sociology so that's another actually way a.
Directly into a generating revenue but also.
Up giving students a really a high-level credential for the job market another another things so.
Larry outs for both love you don't give an old apartment put into.
Both you're rootless and was going to be all great was risen to the service at your biggest concert what are you most worried about personally yeah I departed so I have thought about that.
My concern is it's a whole lotta work.
I mean so to do what I talked about you have to really define carefully.
What it is you care about and you have to a.
Teach that you know produced learning resources that will and you have to assess it really well and you know i i think that in a lot of course is we're not really there.
You know we have we still operating at a 1906 e time kinda theory where we watch them for 18 weeks in.
In the globe are in our presence on our content then they're graduate while so to me the my greatest fears it's a lot of work and we gonna need penn State has over 100 instructional designers we're gonna need a whole bunch more and so are the rest at the universities around the country because of issue based learning is coming.
It is you know increasing prominence and.
Is or the next way so another related concern is.
It's a lot of work and there are to professionals here ready to help move all the existing courses into competency-based arts you know but you have time yeah um I am NOT.
Still worried about the work because other people i doing okay.
And big game embed and at em robert l.
Doing a lot RPG developing the bus um.
I'm worried %uh about well billy ray Padula do.
We're gonna build the no one will show up right when we could be given a a.
30 percent compared doing all a damn pet and now I have been kinda sad especially if um you know the tropical somehow big is undecided the governors on.
Thing and we got they all look what you know and they've done up a big experiment here and it's failed I don't care that much about.
And this and that we admit this is an experiment were richer and failures are that and never.
Other thing up I work about more um up.
My worry about more the institutional perspectives um and STD can.
It is that the model that work for putting out their terms is one that is um.
Reveal the getting into some issues with regard to the campus University Park.
Relationship and and its relationship to world campus that to.
He is um the Senate.
Tensions that the diversity needs to address at some level at some point and.
And the reason why I say that with regard to this point so is course we're doing this in the summer but.
Um if this thing is really successful will be polite students from.
All over for the University wherever.
Campus there ever the campus they are in um.
Kinda happens already in summer with regard.
The whole campus courses and some our online courses that we do.
But and get gun and you know I FB large always gets into trouble we always.
Get into trouble because we have should we you know we have a discipline and a bitch she in all it can to their they have any less hair and split every.
And psychology and so when we tried it is they've agreed can resend an.
And I i want to avoid that I don't really you know it's not the intent prevented UN in now.
Innovative use and do some interesting things but um but I'm an animal a little bit worried about that solely it a question would you consider your your.
Up Google+ looked at it so are you February what's with the with I'll.
Eileen is that his idea %ah we haven't had any conversations other this one I.
With toe I mean I'm were thinking about bashing and I a lot different areas in love part and I would love to to and world partnering with we're going to be used in the batch system has been developed um.
I think for this particular project in.
Summer we gotta nothings but Ryan today.
Um it but I think we we def liquid love you not love the work with Kyle out thinking about something down the line we could do something.
Like that because a on in now it from my perspective we just learned by shiny things and we'll figure out what works and what doesn't.
Or you know it will with you love you think that in the process but but hopefully nothing I get really.
Badly disrupted what do you think about loading all windows as we can but Lawrence Summers its from of campuses so that I'll attempts are.
Included yeah as your use and what yeah I think that the good idea I think.
You know each you reaching out and and partnering what one other issue the problems with minor it's probable the fact that how the world campus grew up.
Um and is that.
A well I i mean our college because the team would you know saw this as something important to get up behind early on %uh we develop infrastructure to build courses.
And the and and now would have liked it but a bit.
Like the 800-pound gorilla in the room but it didn't just happen to mean that we know that was a vision and that was a hard work that happen.
Um but because %uh the way the World Campus.
Works with me I will if you want to stake a claim in a in the ground about discipline into a program then.
You know that is kinda yours I think that a real strain love the World Campus is that it's rooted in academic units at that has to continue obviously me.
Um but we are going to have to have a a conversation as a top univers got that leadership from the President and Bros ultimately on how's this constellation gonna work itself.
University Park campus is World Campus.
It's a is a it's a delicate dance.
As big a delicate as I may be asking you and pat to do and now cause I i Syria I see that Jack met since its own on Penn State students get Penn State credit without being accepted interested.
Accepted question mark interested and I i it's oh so high school students get high school students.
Do this and that my my question for.
Pat is all that you didn't think about that and then we'll make it passes.
Pack goes well it is I'm wondering is you know right now that prior learning assessment option better exemplified portfolio you really only open to people who are in a bar been accepted to a degree program ideally I think it would be more like to enter the program.
After they had amassed a certain hour Britain so.
I love you and say that know that you welcome back to you for a.
Thing about you think it's possible that we might at some point expand beyond that have to be the degree.
Yes so-so I do think it's a big prop because people already a non-degree students already can do that Inc a credit a for making the courses for credit they just not direct as non-degree.
And that's how we would be registering um so I don't see I don't know maybe I'm missing something but I don't think that they gonna be a huge problem um we're just gonna be me the bomb is gonna be if we have hmmm thousands of people two dollars and register for this to read it getting all registered non degree and get them into the system so they will be in the system on that just won't be accepted Independence Day to net in that official way until they go through that process um with regard to prior learn but we gotta.
Learning assessment the priroda um you know I will.
And I've been on this is a prior learning assessment committee in and one other things that actually.
Been we propose doubted that is to have a portfolio writing um which it would be a three credit course and probably will probably have a writing component to it.
Independent I'll the credit by portfolio.
Process that um and it may end in the issue.
Would be is it the university decides to to make that worse the required course for any future credit by per fully I'll to ensure that we have abandoned regular rendering a recess at expectations about what a powerful Leo.
Should look like then after that it into something like this and could that could that course and we're trying to be like that course integrate badges itself into I would since it looks as though the course.
Just huge it no hay.
Bed s the next but I would be interesting to hear how that fits into.
Batted to do whatever you think I think listed.
Explaining difference this particular model.
Ours students to register Ste means I just just like on States orders.
Side your type this is a regular you.
Spree ish British.
Assessment and that.
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Wouldn't I was hoping TV that we would add.
That we would just get one flat rate that we just say you know $9.99.
Take classes are however yeah nine to 920 bus.
At that flat rate everybody come ended we need some help you know well i I'm not saying it's a tizzy if we need it so much rather read about the support the infrastructure that make about the average we have to make it rain money here has been should be about the share good its.
With me you never edited the circle.
Ever so slightly as I don't press limited.
Early he said this is public you her ahead.
Anyway editing myself but I don't know you know it's not it's something that we should we should we really need to think about with regard to.
You know how do we get people to come um.
To cut to do it you know i i think.
If we just say will come take the score for the same amount you pay for any other course just nobody's any fritz as a so back to your trade money thing I think that's not really got me some people have predicted what we're gonna see is a few very large players.
You know we're gonna see maybe universes develop and they're going to be the ones that have status and have technological abilities and how.
Vision so will work what you really made you know if it rains students you have opportunity.
Yet to really expand to do things and.
Cover costs and all that and I think that's that's potentially a very good thing and yet I think that.
You know it might be wise for to try and create.
Some at least images in which we can create.
Massive influx it credits %um yeah and I mean I.
You know I'm than that I'm G about the reigning many bed my because the thing that excites me about this model is the things I was mentioning namely can the opportunities for undergraduate teaching assistants anything graduate teaching assistants really be engaged.
And a massive scale can we really well that out that can have a significant impact on graduate education for us and you can really meee.
Integrate the undergraduate and graduate a.
Molotov education and a big place like this I mean it seemed like it.
Is a lower and we're always looking for places or graduates seconding expresso and while I have those portfolio reviews undergraduate courses can be done by graduate students right now is sourced.
Undergraduate programs and shit seems like it would I think is so close now taking notes a boy at this which cool with it I don't know that it was they who which little I think so okay it what's a i think is a different matter.
Yes it's open letter said it is a good college player is great to have you with us.
And wonderful that has a question for us.
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I'm yet I'm I'm thinking we're gonna grab the.
Students and at Penn State you are home working.
Well we're gonna grab then also students on campuses are or where ever they are working and they get all day see any you know this class is available in cheaper let's get on jump on so we'll get we get into this and they didn't tonight but the question is where we gonna get the net new students.
And that's that interesting to the question.
I E I'm hoping that he could be high schools did people wear wanna go getting ready to go to college %uh.
Same wow I only get Janet three general education credits from Penn State Wednesday that should transfer no problem.
You know um and it will show that on the transcript so I'm thinking that those students may be an A student from any university or a who just needs three more Janet credits.
Or their program where they are so we're hoping to.
%uh you know particularly at Stony Brook you know where Holland.
They'll be taken to that over here that said the good 1i think I think parents who can see if my high school its can get some credit other way.
May be a bit record player five years is that a fire six years so.
Ok that should be very attractive you don't for different demographic another and I would look at the Corsair data for a while yes you know past bachelor's degree 35-year-old a you know non-native English.
People that are completing those courses said more big thing and I think you're right and interest in bed.
An interesting challenge yeah yeah and where we gonna set where we gonna.
Communities and things like that brassiere.
Market well that's why when we when we choose to go outside percent were basically turning down that.
Slow that we get just from being in purse their.
So we talked about it but I don't think that they their is away all those.
Love um segregating.
I think with any person there but yeah I think.
There's %uh the black or a apparently is going to be able to give us a much more robust experience was we got a higher level.
Learning that want it offer students.
Will find out and let you know soon when I go over there and you were there.
Yet another it was so developments is that.
Google's working with a text you create a more learner-centered move but for.
So it'll be interesting to see what we've also that partnership right exactly.
That yeah I mean this space is completely transit in transition and you know the.
You all know more than I do about exactly what he's different landmark platforms candid.
So yes.
How will this ok it will be you get yeah it'll be called that's so should whatever number we give it.
And then um up presented the title be presumed innocent on camper if we get approved by the senate general.
Social science at and what you mean no.
It'll just be in bed Miami so we're not we're not working were only given credit for the mob part in it which is gonna be a rigorous course that is worth three credits it's not gonna be a it's just gonna be delivered to hopefully a lot of people higher learning is this alt hers York.
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Yeah well I guess from my perspective.
We're not going to give credit for something that's not worth credit.
So that's well that's 100 things were taking ownership other doings.
So we say you getting she credits for this is because you did three credits worth backing them it works.
And so in a way it's not it's no longer a movie in the traditional sense that you know we're just we're delivering a credit course at a massive scale or maybe 35 did.
All levels they a again this is 35 dispersed by.
Yeah Sentosa correct it and only the content is compelling that what will get so final question i think is were or not I would start about five minutes late but documents s you what what exactly do you mean by rigorous no.
What what's the rumor whose who's doing all be announces that may be but.
On numbers already yet so a so 10 Roberto is the faculty member in physiology is responsible or developing the content that the course but he's also tapping into that.
Um a a lot of the tail end badly in sociology they're going to be participating in this was regarded as something that isn't and helping consult online well never breaks that were using to assess the.
To assess the assignments on our training our undergraduate and and graduate teaching assistants who are doing the grading and you know I'm I'm confident that we'll be able to on.
Assess the record this course in the same way that we assess you know the rig.
Love our regular courses that you know face-to-face courses that are.
Relatively large forces members were murdering.
Anytime forces a 800 students you know at the time in and or search 119 there's all kinds a big courses that we have gone on campus so.
I iced I think we'll be able to handle that the I.
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Opponent is a things on the I guess on the left in this game there are shared between them Luke.
Will be a portion of course that is.
A bracketed of and segregated of a and that will happen in dis it will happen but a student projects.
That are more a robust in them no have more rigorous and then %uh and the thing I'm going.
We're gonna hire a dozen small army undergraduate ahead any graduate that teach teaching assistants probably in a kinda teaching assistants up teaching incident %uh evaluation love up con and in the um Internet credit courses temperatures teaches so we we have a lot of experience with that over in sociology in with ever.
We took over as undergraduate student Angeles so.
Are hoping that that integrate that and that's another partner to see how that can be abroad into this this model so how this gonna work well it we're gonna have a kind of the mood incomplete the mood I'll drop attitude as we know how people do.
%uh and and those who completed their and their certificate with all the things on the bottom the certificate has this piece the papers were.
Barely what's printed on but inna it.
A sign up for crack ad at a certain point in India and early on in the court don't sign up I will register them a top managers about that I'm we they will complete a the at with the more robust information.
And more wrote us assignments then I'll receive great and the receipt we credit.
For the course so.
My flashlight here is but open question the Pride people have a number of questions but we have a number.
Open questions about what delivery platform are we gonna use we are proudly.
Were thinking about staying away from Corsair on this one I and hoping that the reduced up working were I'm going from this meeting to mean a blackboard.
Up to see if that if their reduced to mission rain is going to be.
At the military main level which is something like nine hundred and twenty dollars.
So a mystery much the lowest which do we offer.
It'll be.
Into an inpatient thing up to another open question is how we gonna manage to do.
How we gonna the verifying this because the academic there any point however.
Verify that the people who are there are def going to work up so all those things are things with a.
Being about and if you wanna put me on them %uh.
You can but I don't have a lot to answer at the moment at the %uh said that's really the that's really the mall or up for this movie ok %uh grand experiment in summer we r one quite grown up from where a bit yeah how did you go about actually getting that were used Wiktionary I a personal essay on well I know people yeah %uh on actually it was a you know if this whole thing came at about women in conversation with on crack.
Apply to men and um and Susan Welsh.
And and so we just said we up he in fact he approaches are we willing to experiment and we came up with this model took some %uh convinced the and I and to be honest with me on sure that it's finally been reduce red this hearing is that spread a bankroll yeah I K survey never just gonna well you know all the money you make on the road can't doesn't funneling back in.
But I actually a I think the you know even if we spit is certainly making less just a thousand dollars as.
A student on it um.
If we get a thousand students Leslie the governor us you know but I have if we can get about this is only a preview crazy pretty significant I don't think we're gonna get.
Actually Senate department 'em yeah I don't miss the ok I'll thunderheart.
I.
Your crackly Senate approval if coming we're approving getting course approved as a just a general education course um in June fabrics NN this breaking.
I am whenever I try to talk about delivery methods in terms of both.
Course approvals with victory pump many nobody they want to be delivery eg not.
It so I'm kinda um justs lettin that still be 2k is cuz this course.
As a course in though it's not a meanie is gonna be a trigger s in own sociology course that we could offer anyway.
Um getting the departed by and let the.
Was well what thusly it had to and this is you know real value to buy it you know that what that members outta.
Outta that a course couple the spraying and him to be a minute develop it um.
Big budget was kinda driving it so we just to prove it bentson incidences in what has been on board ninety you know I'm.
Damaged I did you just try it may just try something different Chris.
You're not gonna go the Corsair our there as I bought straight yes oh our how are you about promoting yet something like a got yep that's a that's one of the things we've been thinking a lot about which is that which is and marketing um.
Once we have the.
Um tuition finalized.
And what we have Eunos the assets with regard to the videos um it we're gonna and will work with WDS you try to the marketing plan.
To make this you know to get this out there and then to see about.
Um a I.
You know it's gonna be what that is you get a general education at three no indication credits for cheaper you kinda you know very instrumental up you know buy one get one free at are get one frame by when I don't know how this rather third with a move that much but now we're going to have that we're have a planter for that and and I think my understanding and I don't have a huge understanding at Corsair.
My understanding there's some some significant.
%uh limits on you 1 is it that I have a mic but when asked questions noticed are estimated road going through this yet.
Okay there there is a question as to the automated degrading what type of pipe or software what you.
You know you think was a weird thing where the we're gonna meet in an hour or whenever and at noon-4.
A with blackboards those are the and the questions that were gonna be.
A asking our designers and liberal arts thats.
Their were works for taking the lead a donde the design I have the cords and have those questions but we've but we've got the support a.
A upgrades office on a date Lee said that to this.
If they had manually registry that's what we're gonna do and it as a pilot and trash figure that out so i mean i think one of the big worries as registration now how are people gonna get into our system in no regular moves that just not never touch our system you know.
So that's going to be a significant issue but Blackwell my understanding at.
At by or will be able to deal with that and a scale this this a forget what the flat or.
Learn.
Are a sailor's their normal 10 special.
Yeah I think they have a spare set aside and your so other because I and I wanna ask that I'll a question about that a cat is on we can tease Kathy should be answering questions in my head.
Go ahead and I did okay and it that she's that.
In me much at the same effect as I one of the things I was wondering about your model is the issue love.
Love of coke up a coherent up the curriculum love that so and are you doing visioning first certain components up to greet them that they have been made a bad situation where we can require.
You know not just a and a collection of various learning experiences but actually at sequence then tiered experience in somebody's got some others indeed the introductory ok at yet so.
I I'm sick in the badging government knowledge and comprehension level things and some application another are worse things and I'm I'm guessing that.
Often accustomed to work credit it may be a through road course we may want to divide it into you know one protest.
Clear that up was a.
Comprehensive it turns out that you can usually pass that without in on first right kinds of things so.
Anticipates they were 10 badges that biggest regret course mmm some portfolio review or or those badges detestable so I played chess table.
It credit for or those tend then the or.
They all look at that and I got another three up.
A bit there might silly three things left so I we might so you gotta.
To critics were there for the third read it we need to go back for didn't so what I see their there is their.
Up meet again for all for you so it do the first time it through ninety dollars in.
Their credits you and from that they get.
Two-thirds other credits but that look at this meet again my hope or don't know i'm looking up at so.
Are all.
Prior learning assessment expert here that I'm hoping that you might be there baby another rate for rich the.
You're gonna need to pay it they submit again %uh.
But I won't that be based on August 3 credits left so 390 was down to their Riverside 3 at ninety hmm on the second.
Review already left because it re-look at most a good the third around the second or I was going to be less right so only what they wonder about is how so higher praise God will too a for what you use kinda 10 yeah in other words the the courses that.
Or can be automated grading I know let's excess revenue for university so its controversial look but courses where you require our resource.
Are probably going to end up being more expensive than courses that don't require lotteries.
Buddy do you see an issue with heat and pulling up the lower level all.
Aspect that is it seems to me that in.
In some courses those tests along the way.
RB built around a higher level morning to ever are integrated stricken at his.
Points for specific reasons right so when you pull the without incredible them separately you.
House that was at this place is awesome as additional credentialing this tepid it so if there's still a sense conductivity where they have to do something with.
Yet what you know either lot or create with it.
A that that benchmark States huh so if there if there's a cat on project right is still a capstone project.
Wouldn't get a capstone project so that you know like a bad as this week but on that bed so this is a nozzle at covers at times it from soup to nuts may and dispersed knows about it and that's a.
If you want you can say the bottom of that there's another in others the guys that requires them to apply that at least on tax.
A as we control what displays you look perjury already there so it's a label those things for what they are its.
Of making those higher order the yet I'm.
And you can even have a knowledge it the this clear echoes from a ship prerequisite to actually doing worst right so if it's and I see it your basement.
It that there are things that people to learn on their own way here's.
Or let's let them do that then been there.
Things they really in the infection with experts are actually appears.
Let's control that let's let's do that.
Well and you know that's kinda what we do support I see more people coming through doing the easy stuff on there on and then we have the time and energy devoted to you the hirers yet so we can get more people.
Coming through for the higher-order pieces we got the charger you know is what it costs to provider.
Expertise and Asus yeah inches from.
Yet yes there's an interesting but was there not to wear are Jr on that sand at a pain in the ass to get.
Her %uh so what's what colours are.
Murder visit this and and specifically.
Yet but are not considered the score yet then becomes a seeger writer on what's the late is our.
Your writer-director acted quite getting at the halls.
So with regard to being questioned my a if the person took.
Because the credit far me at mock then they were they're getting Penn State.
That if they Renault it would just come in.
Up um if they just took the loop then a day when I get that big they won't be doing all the extra work bed.
Word after them to do for the credit then they wouldn't get they would be retroactively get credit three credit.
At that point um with regard to up a longer-term vision well um I don't know how many people are hunting.
25 people other it seems to me we're just we're experimenting here we don't have a grand vision I love all well now all the sudden we're going to be offering a million to these courses that you know because we're we're thinking can it can we do something that has real academic integrity they can generate some revenue you um and and feedback into you know and feed our actually are I think they're probably more substantive long-term goals are enrollment on the World um and so you know just the fact that we.
We had some evidence that these moves in general.
She can feed eyeball to an enrollment in a campus programs is something that um %uh is important and and I think so in terms that moose.
I could imagine our strategy being one.
That is designed to draw people into the world to the online programs that we have in and that's why we chose another is me Joe sociology because it's a social science we have political science already why can't we have psychology Rd online what hinders.
So by offering in general %uh a general social science um credit we are going to hopefully get people who are need general education credit from the wider world from with intense day.
And from and then potentially people who might be injured that'll actually looked at it as hell.
And I got a psychology program over there maybe.
Something I want check out so so i i think in in in the short run at least.
The the the strategy is to push things to the World Campus I suspect so they that if your academic programs will have different motives for doing movies.
And the right now we have this one centralized follow through is almost ago.
Also will come down to the dean's but the college's choice and one.
Look might be offered because we have a dissemination.
Responsibility from this grant to educate the world about it others might be have to work at this program we can use this as a Recruitment others might be I reasons that I think that we're at this its you know point a revolution we're still.
Watching that very carefully because it is high stakes territory.
Pay but ultimately it will become a tool that's right for gifford.
Programs yet after that that yeah and then I mean I'm also interested myself.
In that issue I'll 'em the learning experience on the undergraduate th that so what what kind of experiences are we a.
Giving the students who are TA in this class.
30 prestige into that experience maybe even offer credit for that %uh depend so there there's another side it that where are do for our summer party is highly all credential Larry outs up for both love you I'm getting old apartment put both your rotors and was going to be all great was risen to the present your.
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